Monday, June 14, 2010

Lecture Series:
Lecture 2: Challenges to Education, Part I, Postmodernism

Is there such a thing as truth? Is truth possible?

This may seem an unimpressive or laughable question to you, but, unfortunately, it is a necessary question due to present cultural conditions.

A brief history lesson: During the Reformation, people began to question the previously unassailable authority of the Catholic Church. For over a thousand years, the Church commanded the confidence of the faithful, and generally uneducated, population of Western Europe.

An man named Lorenzo Valla, an Italian Christian Humanist, noticed that the Catholic Church had lied about certain documents granting them land rights. He then noticed that the Latin Vulgate Bible was also riddled with errors. He dared not publish this second discovery, and so he hid his manuscripts. Erasmus later found them, understood them, and published them posthumously (after all, who is going to kill a dead man for heresy?). The dam was beginning to break.

Then Martin Luther discovered that the teaching of the Church was at odds with Scripture and vociferously denounced the corruptions within the Church, especially on the doctrine of salvation.

The Church was losing its grip. Its authority was deteriorating rapidly. If the Church was wrong about salvation, the Bible and history, then how could it be trusted at all?

Not long after this, a Christian philosopher named Descartes didn't just distrust Catholic authority. He began his project further back, questioning the reliability of even our senses. He asked why we should trust our senses when they deceive us. He wondered if there could perhaps be an evil god who is deceiving us. (Note, Descartes had a lot more to say here, but for now we'll let it rest.)

But David Hume took this line of thinking even further. Hume didn't doubt that we are really sensing something in the world, but he wondered if that is all we are doing. Hume didn't believe that we have any obvious proof of causation, because we have no "simple impression" of causation as a principle (we don't experience causation by sensing it with the 5 senses). We experience one event following another event, but we don't "see" causation. Causation is an idea we impose upon the events under observation. Could it be that the world is a totally random collection of events and we are merely imposing the idea of causal connections in order to "create" some meaning out of it all? We can't know if this is or isn't the case. It could be, and so Hume's skepticism emerged.

Then the existentialists came along, claiming that we cannot find rational certainty on most of the crucial philosophical questions, such as free will, evil, morality, rationalism v. nominalism, etc. But we can live individually and authentically according to our own bold vision. We are "thrown into" this absurd existence, says Sarte. So we must make meaning out of our meaningless lives.

And then came Darwin, with his "evidence" that we may indeed be nothing more than a purely accidental natural phenomenon and nothing else; a product of undirected, purposeless processes.

So lets put it all together and see what we get. Can't trust Church + Can't trust senses + Can't trust reason (Hume's skepticism) + Existentialism + Darwinian naturalism = Postmodernism!

If you want to know why the default answer to philosophical questions in our day is, "I don't know," or "It's just my view," or, "No one knows for sure," or "Truth is relative," etc., the reason is the equation listed above.

So what is postmodernism? To answer, let us consider Dr. J.P. Moreland's effective synopsis:

Posmodernism is a form of cultural relativism after the modern, or enlightenment, era. Cultural relativism is the idea that there are no unchanging, permanent principles. Principles are created and maintained in cultures, even down to the importance of science and mysticism. The Buddhists want to meditate while Europeans generally want to test things in a laboratory. Some cultures prize mysticism and some science, and all have their own independent right to "create" truth for themselves.

During the Enlightenment, thinkers like Descartes and Locke, even Jefferson and many of the founding fathers, held certain ideas; ideas that are largely rejected today.

Those ideas are as follows:

1. Metaphysical Realism (sometimes referred to simply as "realism"): This is the idea that reality is independent of mind. And it relates not merely to objects like "the desk," etc., but also to abstract ideas, such as love. The "realist" (as contrasted with the "nominalist") says that love is not merely a mental activity, but is "anchored" to the reality of love, just as my idea of the desk is anchored to the reality of the desk "outside" of my mental activity.

The postmodernist rejects this notion. Truth is whatever cultures define it to be. This shows up in debates about the definitions of marriage and family. The postmodernist believes that marriage is something we just made up and so we can make it different. Some textbooks will claim that there are many different kinds of families, and that family is something we just made up and so we can "redefine" it if there is a cultural need. Perhaps the best way to address this notion is to ask a few questions: Can we define the family as a man and his pets? Can we define a marriage as a man and a harem? Can we define a marriage as a man and a corpse? Is a family in which there are willing participants in incestuous relations an acceptable family? If the postmodernist complains here that there are some standards for family, then he has abandoned postmodernism for realism and has neglected to tell us the foundation of his realism. What standard is he using to determine that the harem is wrong?

2. The Correspondence Theory of Truth: This is the natural extension of "realism." If I believe there is a real world that my thoughts either rightly or wrongly appraise, then truth must have something to do with aligning my thoughts with reality. Thus the simple definition afforded by Dr. Moreland is, "When things are the way one takes them to be." He goes on to explain that truth is a relationship of correspondence between a thought or a sentence and reality. If I think that someone is slandering me when they are not, then my idea is false. If I think that God exists and He does, then I think truthfully.

The postmodernist thinks that truth is an attribute or a property of the speaker and not a relation of correspondence with reality. The speaker or writer has his truth and you have yours. In theory, the postmodernist must believe that it really is true for the Christian that God exists, and also that it really is true for the atheist that God does not exist. It is almost as if he is claiming that you can walk from the atheist student union to the Christian fraternity, and in that short walk God will magically come into existence because you've crossed into a community that "believes him into existence."

3. Psychological Objectivity: The claim here is that one can be objective in considering a philosophical question. And psychological objectivity has to do with "absence of bias" on the question at hand. Let's say for the moment that the question is Calvinism v. Arminianism. Some Christians might insist that one cannot be objective on this question since we are shaped by our cultural upbringing. If I am raised in a Methodist church, will it be likely that I will become a Calvinist? Perhaps it is not likely, but is it impossible?

Dr. Moreland points out that it seems apparent that people are not often psychologically objective, but that doesn't preclude the possibility. People are most often psychologically objective when they first consider a question. It is in these moments that people are generally neutral on a question. If one has never considered the question of Calvinism v. Arminianism, then perhaps one would consider the best arguments on both sides and then make a decision. It seems at least possible that a person can be objective in this sense.

But a question remains: Is it a good thing to be objective in this sense? One is tempted to say yes, but is it really good to be psychologically objective indefinitely? Is it good for us to be "neutral" on a question forever? Can you imagine a person moving to Tibet to become a Buddhist monk for years, then to Spain to become a Catholic, then to India to become Hindu, then to Saudi Arabia to become Muslim, and never committing to any one of them, because "neutrality" is better than "narrow-minded" commitment? Of course this is absurd. The curious thing about it is that the postmodernist has made a commitment to neutrality, which is surely narrow-minded, since it is at least possible that one worldview is true.

4. Rational Objectivity: The claim that one can discern good and bad arguments even with a bias towards one view. According to Moreland, enlightenment thinkers believed that a Christian, for example, could recognize and assess sound arguments against his worldview. Anecdotal experience is perhaps sufficient to support this claim. In my own life, I have noticed several good, even initially devastating, arguments against the Christian position. And my bias did not keep me from being able to recognize a reasonable refutation of Christian theology or philosophy. On deeper analysis, I've yet to find a rational argument against Christianity that holds, but certainly at least many of them require a well reasoned response.

The postmodernist denies this possibility, claiming instead that one's bias so clouds judgment as to make unbiased reasoning impossible. For example, a person raised as a Christian simply can never disentangle himself from his predilections towards that worldview in order to consider the merits of Islam, or atheism.

5. Linguistic Reference: This is the idea that words do in fact refer to reality, again bringing in the notion of correspondence and realism. Moreland's example is useful here. When I use the word "masculine," as a realist I at least admit that some objective meaning for this term exists, even if human ignorance and imperfection make progress in discovering it difficult.

The postmodernist insists on exactly the opposite. He insists that language is a construct of cultures, and that words only function as labels for meanings we invent and assign to our varied experiences. Back to our word, "masculine." The postmodernist would insist that in one culture the term "masculine" could stand for "strong, detached and reckless." In another community, the term could stand for, "courageous, faithful and hard-working." And both would be correct, because both have merely created a cultural sign-post by using the word however they desire.

6. Dichotomous thinking: This is the time-honored notion of either/or thinking. A subject is divided into two categories with the purpose usually of affirming the one and denouncing the other. We say some things are "good" and some "bad." Some people are "wise" and others "fools." In most cases, either/or language shows up in morality. Christians often speak of Jesus being "the way, the truth and the life," and that no one can enter heaven except by Him. This is particularly troubling language to a postmodernist.

The postmodernist, largely fueled by Nietzsche on this point, believes that dichotomous language is an oversimplification and a blatant attempt to assert one's power over others. We say "we are right" and "they are wrong" in order to feel that we are in control; that we are better than others. And so the enlightened and truly humble man will not use dichotomous language, because we are all "on our own journey," etc.

7. Metanarratives: Plainly put, a metanarrative is an "over-story." Another way of putting it is to say that it is a "big story" that is supposed to be true for everyone. Christians believe that Christianity is true for everyone, even if someone vehemently rejects it. Most atheists (the non-postmodernist variety) affirm the same thing. They believe that Christians, along with all other religious people, are hopelessly wrong about the thing that matters to them most.

The postmodernists rejects metanarratives and in their place puts the "micro-narrative" or "local narrative." In short, the local narrative is a cultural story that remains true only as long as the culture sustains belief in it. Zeus presumably was real until Christianity displaced the system of deities affirmed by the Greco-Roman system.

Assessment of Postmodernism: In short, postmodernism is irrational on many levels. This of course should surprise no one in an age when human reason has been incrementally neglected in favor of human passions.

But let's consider a few questions that expose the self-refuting, irrational nature of postmodernism:

1. Self-Refuting Notion 1: Language cannot refer to reality. Does the sentence “language cannot refer to reality” refer to any reality?

2. Self-Refuting Notion 2: Truth is defined in cultures. What if there is a culture that says, “truth is not defined in cultures?” Are they expressing a “truth?” Is the “truth” that “truth is defined in cultures” also merely a cultural "truth?"

3. Self-Refuting Notion 3: The meaning of a writer’s words is open to interpretation. What if I interpret this sentence to mean… "a writer’s words are not open to interpretation?"

4. Self-Refuting Notion 4: No such thing as an objective claim. Is this claim objective or so clouded by opinion that the opposite could be true?

5. Self-Refuting Notion 5: Dichotomous thinking is not worthy of thoughtful people. Are you dividing the world into two categories—those who use dichotomous thinking and those who claim they do not—and then saying that one is better than the other?

6. Self-Refuting Notion 6: There are no “meta-narratives. There are only local narratives. Is the opinion that there are no meta-narratives merely a local narrative or is it a meta-narrative? If it is a local narrative, I will choose to accept another narrative stating that there are meta-narratives.

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

I found the part of the blog about existentialists quite interesting. The fact that we can "live individually and authentically according to our own bold vision...So we must make meaning out of our meaningless lives," is almost demeaning. It seems irrational to create meaning in life for oneself if one does not have meaning in the first place. Why live then? Living for pleasure is never fully fulfilled in one's life because they seek more pleasure constantly. It is great to know we serve a God that gives us meaning because our lives are each a piece of His plan. We therefore can live for Him, knowing that He has a plan for us and we can have meaning in that. We can then rely on God's "bold vision" rather than our own, which is most likely skewed and will turn out poorly for us. Only God is able to fulfill our needs to the full, and our only desire for more should be for His love, and that fact alone is satisfying. -Claryce Lazerson

Anonymous said...

I think that there is such a thing as truth. People saying that gravity exists are telling the truth, it is accepted by everyone that gravity exists. This proves that truth at least exists. Now there are a lot of things that mankind do not know for sure if there is truth in it, but we know that there is an absolute truth, we just need to find it.
Ryan Roodzant
P3

Anonymous said...

Many people might be closed minded to learning about what other people believe in and believe is true. But I think it is enriching to both our mental and spiritual state to not only know them but study them. I think the most interesting part of this article was in the discussion of the Correspondence Theory of Truth. It seems, and is, absurd to think that people can make up whatever they want to be true. If this is "true" (get it?) then the world would be a place of disorder and virtually be non-existant. But I cannot wait to learn more about theories of truth to help me better understand what makes what God says the real and undeniable truth.
~Shannon Foy

Clover Zhou said...

Postmodernism is absolutely the most intersting part we've talked about so far. It's ironic that all the theories they have are actually self-refuting to what they just say. I think truth is more like a relationship of correspondence with reality than a property of the speaker, while I am thinking there's no way for a person to make a decision without bias(this would be self-refuting nothion 4). So I wonder if the absoluteness of being postmodernist or not is significant or not. In another case, postmodernism is obviously irrational; why there's still people believe in it or part of it and use reasonless evidence to defend it? The basically reason might be this : we are getting lazier and we are lack of the ability to think and choose. In our lecture of debugging the system, the second argument mentions this: many people can no longer process complex arguments. Being over entertained by the medias and losing our ability to be a thinker who can be responsable for ourselves are completely satiric and wretched. ---------Clover Zhou 3rd period

Unknown said...

Truth itself is invariability. But for human,the requirements of truth always change. Change for benefit, Culture, Political and Religion. Because people usually want to see thing that they want to see. That is the reason why the "Truth" always change.
So how can we find the Truth if if always change? We have two chose: 1. Go find the truth with your "modern science". but it maybe useless even you spend your whole life try to find the truth. 2.Find the truth with Bible. You will see. truth is waiting for you in the Bible.
The long road or shortcut, you chose.

By Jove Hu

Anonymous said...

I think that truth applies to everyone, whether or not a person believes it. Truth is, at the same time, relative to the person, and not relative to the person. Everyone has the right to believe what they want, even if the truth is right there in their face and they openly reject it. The Christian faith is true, whether or not they would like to believe it. They may say that, "Oh that's just your opinion". Well, it may be just -my- opinion, but my opinion is from a faith that encompasses everything and everyone. They will know the truth eventually.

Brian Tran
Period 3

Anonymous said...

When we went over this exact stuff in class today and yesterday and even last week I found it extremely interesting. However you lost me when you explained David Hume's way of thinking. The part of this blog that stuck out to me the most was when you talked about the Correspondence Theory of Truth. I remember you also talking about the example of a person walking from an athiestic union to a christian fraternity in class as well and it tripped me out. God doesn't just magically appear because the surrounding audience believes Him to be there. As for the question in the opening. Yes, there is such a thing as truth. Our mission is to seek out that truth and share it using good reasoning and logical thinking. That way christians aren't forever defined as the ones who "feel" that what they believe in is true. -Chloe Graham Period 4

Unknown said...

Sure, good stuff here. A very well written outline to some basic and fundamental flaws in post modernist thinking. I'd like to see you expand on existentialism a little bit more, because that's crucial to understanding a good many minds behind post modernist thought, specifically post 1860s.

Unknown said...

It's only evident through both the reading of this blog and the mere understanding of the posmodernist's point of view that it is a completely contradictory, elementary way to understand the world. The only truly airtight explanation for existence and meaning is through a filter of God.

Anonymous said...

It was intersting to read about what other people may think of the truth, and how they percieve it.You can definitely see the flaws in their arguments though, and that realy shows how they can not make a thorough agrument on how to defend their truth. Im looking forward to hopefully learn more about ways to learn about truth.
-Storm Bohacek

Briana Morris said...

I think that studying all the different "truths" will help everyone better understand the significance of finding their own version of the "truth". We must study all areas in order to completely understand. Self-Refuting Notion 3 was the most interesting notion to me because if an author wrote or said a stament he would want to be taken seriously, and if post modernists intrepret the statement differently on purpose, what was the point of the author in the first place? His stament had no reasoning behind it if it was meant to have a different meaning to everyone else.

Anonymous said...

I think this article shows that there is a meaning to life, we just have to figure out what it is. i think people need to be more open minded about what other people believe, even if they don't agree with it. i think to truely have a full life, you have to accept God into your heart and live your life as He would want you to live it. there are many people that just don't really care and don't really have a true meaning for their life.

Anonymous said...

this article was very interesting. The part that stood out to me the most was the part about gravity. People catn say that gravity doesn't exist cause it is the very thing that is hold them to the earth. This shows us that there is some truth in the world it just depends on the person you are talking to. there is as absolute truth out there its just a matter of looking for it in the right places.

mitchell reyneveld p2

Anonymous said...

Postermodernism is very irrational. It's pretty interesting that alot of people have that view even though there are so many flaws with it. I would say that most postermodernists are stubborn and unwilling to take the time to actually study the world view that they have and point out their blatant faults. Instead they just take the easy way out and say that what's true for them is true for them. There's no absolutes. It's irrational and stubborn thinking. Anyways, I liked the article. Very factual.

---Oliver Shevchenko

Tanner Harris said...

I think that post-modernists don't really have a grasp on what they believe entire. Everything about their beliefs either contradicts itself or is outright ridiculous. Concerning postmodernists' view on the Correspondence Theory of Truth; the idea that absolute truths can be separate is an illusion, for if there were no absolute truths, everything would just be a random compilation of space and matter. For example, if gravity was objective, then everyone could play Superman and fly. If 2+2 didn't equal 4, mathematics would become pointless. If humans didn't need to breathe, then we could have set up Atlantis already! My point is that being a postmodernist is basically like saying that you're on the band-wagon on the culture. Whatever is right for it is right for you. Yet the culture can be wrong (and is also straying father from God and absolute truth). For anyone who has a rational train of thought, this whole concept would seem at least somewhat sketchy.

Kirsten Watkins said...

All of the postmodernist's that I have met seem to use their postmodernism as a reason to seclude themselves in a bubble, It seems like Postmodernism can easily be broken down but in their world it is the strongest barrier. It seems to me that the only reason someone would believe this is to make themselves "too mature" to pick a side and live their lives in peaceful ignorance.

Elsa Braun said...

Postmodernists are silly people. I think the dichotomous thining is a good point. At music camp, one night our cabin leader read us a story about how the Chirsitan and the atheist were trapped in their box of arrogance to think they were right but aren't the post modernist being arrogant to say their truth of there being no truth is the truth. One of the popular things kids would say is that they felt like they could be themselves at camp. That was not true for me and if I were to convey my truth it would step on the other truths toes so I apparently I was the bad truth which is exactly how postmodernism refutes itself with using dichotomous thinking though it condemn it.
-Elsa Braun

Anonymous said...

I think that while many people might be close minded, as christians it is our job to be the open minded ones. In todays society where people are more "couch potato thinkers" people don't raise questions and instead want to be told the answer by either the government, their parents, or out of there own magic hat where everything is simplistic. This possibility of one thing being real to one person and imaginary to someone else is quite frightening. In an extreme case what if a on the rode, drivers decide to think that stoplights are "guide lines". The postmodernists who tend to be behind this kind of thinking are irrational indeed as where would a sense of order come from. Truth is the framework to society, this is clear from the age of skepticism the church became just a voice, a "guide line"
If we today are wrong about salvation and absolute truth, then mans existence, history, and progress has all been a waste.
-Michael Decicco
Period 3

Anonymous said...

Although we can learn things from the postmodernist point of view, their arguments made towards truth completely contradict themselves. First off, they believe that truth is subjective. There is no absolute truth that blankets all races, groups, or cultures.If an atheist believes that there is no god, his beliefs dictate what is true. A Christian can believe that there is a God at the same time however, and He will be real for the Christian. How can a God be true for one person, but not true for another? Doesn't this defeat the purpose of truth itself? How can they argue this when the statement defeats itself? This blog page and the lectures in class revealed to me the major errors of Postmodernism. Culture today has strayed from the age of skepticism. Many people fail to see the errors in what they choose to believe in. A sense of pride and ego prevent them from admitting that they are wrong.
-Nicolo Daug
Period 3

Anonymous said...

Truth although seems impossible at times due to the deceiving and lie ridden culture we live in, IS POSSIBLE. Now I can say its possible because anything is possible with God but truly the truth is what you believe and what you set in your mind to be true. With all these worldviews around us anything can be believed as true to a person but what is pure truth is that of god and what he says is true.
- Ericka Lopez

Anonymous said...

I personally think the self refuting notions are interesting. When post modernists say "truth is defined in cultures" I feel they are digging themselves a hole. If one cultures says it's okay to kill people and eat them and another culture says it isn't what side do they take? The side they were raised with. The side the people around that person has chosen. Also, the notion that I find interesting is there is not meta-narratives. Wouldn't that be a meta-narrative? These things don't completely make sense and I would love to ask a post-modernists point of view on that.
Michelle Laughlin Period 4

Liza Onead said...

The part of this that hit me the most is when you talked about how all these theories contradict themselves in some way. It opened my eyes to the fact that things we could believe in with every aspect of our beings could be proven completely false in a heartbeat, but we just haven't found the evidence proving it false. It also shows that we believe in things way too easily. Some of us just turn to the media to determine what is real when it comes to some aspects of our lives, and the media could lead us into believing that things that are wrong, are right and vice versa. Also, the part where we can live in our own little world of our beliefs kind of struck something, it shows that people may believe in something, just like a lot of us, but believe it in their own ways, totally twisting around what is actually meant, and living according to their own twisted interpretation of anything they can think of, and live that way. Thinking about how some people have actually done this makes me think of how we need to check what we're believing in BEFORE we actually start to believe it. This whole blog made me realize that everything we say and do could have a contradiction in some way that makes what we said or did completely false or misleading and that, before we go believe in something with all our hearts, we should go look up all the facts, look up all the evidence, and everything that would make what we're believing in, worth believing in.

Anonymous said...

There has to be such a thing as truth. There are absolute truths like gravity, the sky is blue and the grass is green. These are not arguable because people can actually see it. I think the problem with people believing in God as an absolute truth is that they cannot physically see Him. Because of this everyone has their own opinions. An example is when people say "I'll have to see it to believe it." We have become a visual society and we want to see with our own eyes that God is physically there but we just can't. This brings up the Correspondence Theory of Truth. There is no way that one's own believe could take God in and out of existence, the world would be chaos. If this was actually true there would be nothing. If I believed that the grass was green but you believed it was purple who would be right if we couldn't walk outside and see for ourselves? This could be the same with God, at some point, we have to determine that He is an absolute truth and as Christians this is what we believe and is true. -Anna haupt period 3

Payton Howard said...

There is a different sense of truth in everyone. However, there are things that can be proved true and also things that cannot. Christianity for example, has all the facts. Other religions have holes in their so-called "truths". What God says is true is what we beieve as Christians, and thats all that matters.

Brandon Vincent said...

I thought that postmodernists were very firm in their claims without too many holes in their logic, but the way that Mr. Sutherland explained it almost made me laugh since I thought that. The way that he explained the contradictory statements made me want to laugh. How could I have thought that postmodernism could be a truth? I think it is followed by so many people that we don't even want to question it or we will be seen as outsiders to the passive part of society. These contradictions need to be shown to all postmodernists so that they can see their faulty thinking. We also need to show them the way to Christianity which is the only way to go.
Brandon Vincent Per.4

Anonymous said...

This was very interesting to me. I think it's interesting that postmodernists think what's true for them is right and what others believe is also right for them, even if they conflict with one another. I think it's important to study and learn about the other religions, so that I can defend my faith. If what's true for me is not for someone else then what is really true? I think it's important to be able to show that there is something wrong with that form of thinking. It starts with there being a truth that we can know. There can’t be multiple truths. There’s only one truth but there can be many perspectives for that truth. The more you’re able to see the whole the more you are able to understand the truth. Ignorance is not a option.

-Amanda Root

Austin Duffield said...

Of course in the world we live in there are truths and fallacies. Without truths a lot of different things would be open to question. Post modernists seem to be sort of stubborn in that they say whatever one believes is true to them. Saying that there is no absolute truth is a foolish thing to say. If there is no absolute truth, then is there a sense of morality. of course there are things that are right and things that are wrong in this world. I really like the concept of Dichotomous thinking as it is a good tool for this exact concept.

Anonymous said...

Postmodernists have a funny way of looking at what they believe is the truth and what is not the truth. They completely contradict themselves through their arguments about what is true. What I say is the real truth could ultimately crush another's opinion on truth and my truth could be the "bad" truth and their's the "good" truth, or vice versa. Everyone has different observations on truth and people should understand both sides. I also thought the part on existentialism was very interesting in this blog. Existentialists believed they were thrown into to this world and have to make a meaning out of their meaningless lives, which is totally absurd in my opinion. What is the point of living when you do not know what you are living for and where you will end up after life? There is no pleasure in being existentialists.
~Julia Stewart
Period 4

Owen Schoneveld said...

The main thing that jumps out at me when reading this article is the belief of post modernists that there is no absolute truth. It is impossible for their to not be abslolute truths. The saying, "there are no absolute truths" is, in itself, an absolute truth. I feel that the majority that are postmodernists are just people who are not sure what to belive so they lay back on something that is commonly accpeted today. Im not saying that all postmodernists are like that but im saying that most dont even know what they actually belive in when they put faith in postmodernism.

Allison Epperly said...

Truth is not determined by the culture or by the way we think, it is determined by its origin. God is the origin of truth. When truth is taken out of context we get mixed of views of what truth is. When all we need to do is go to the origin of truth and find the answer to all questions.

-Allison Epperly
P.3

Anonymous said...

In the begiining of the blog david hume had an idea that the world is just full of random events and somehow we just cnnect them. I thonk this is totally absurb. I believe that God has created everything for a reason and He knows the future so He knows what will come out of the events. Also when post modernists say there is "no absoulute truth" they are basically going against themselves, so how can people belive it. There has to be truth or the earth/world wouldnt be as it is today. I think that post mordernists beliefs are very intresting in ways. Just the stuff they belive in. A lot of it is self refusing.I belive there is truth and everything in this world has a purpose!
-Taylor touchstone
p.3

Anonymous said...

In the begiining of the blog david hume had an idea that the world is just full of random events and somehow we just cnnect them. I thonk this is totally absurb. I believe that God has created everything for a reason and He knows the future so He knows what will come out of the events. Also when post modernists say there is "no absoulute truth" they are basically going against themselves, so how can people belive it. There has to be truth or the earth/world wouldnt be as it is today. I think that post mordernists beliefs are very intresting in ways. Just the stuff they belive in. A lot of it is self refusing.I belive there is truth and everything in this world has a purpose!
-Taylor touchstone
p.3

Andrew WIlbur said...

The part of this blog that really stuc out to me was the idea that truth is defined in cultures. In the world that we live in there are many conflicting world views, but only one truth. With this worldview it is being said that there are many truths on a single subject and that the truth is dependant on what cultures say.

Anonymous said...

Though I believe having an open mind and questioning some things in life is important, I think that believing that everything can't be trusted or proven is a very negative outlook on life. If we follow that our senses or the conclusions we draw from those senses cannot be trusted, then ultimately you will become victim to paranoia. The two logical outcomes i see is to believe our perceptions are true and live in the world we believe to be, or come to the conclusion that it is impossible to determine if our senses are lying so doubting them leads to nowhere except paranoia.

Laurens Gibson Period 4

Anonymous said...

I believe there are such things as truth exisit. Those abslout truth like sun rise up from the east, men can not live without oxygen,etc. Those truth come from ages and has being proved. However in the Postmodernism, people can make up truths for their own benefits, politicals, bussiness, religions. They paved the way for their own good but ignore the influence pass to other people and next generation, they will live in a world with bunch of "Truths".
-Peter Yan

Kim said...

It's funny when postmodernists believe they're giving strong arguments when in reality, they're not. They're so flawed and it's easy to catch the holes. I don't think they take the time to think about their arguments, instead they choose to stick to what they say and strongly believe in it. I think it's important to study other religions and their arguments so I can not only defend my religion but also find the flaws in theirs and possibly even lead them to the truth. God is the truth

Kimberly Ruiz, Period 3

Anonymous said...

Yes, there is such a thing as "truth" and it is our duty as followers of Christ to seek out that truth and better our minds spiritually and academically through it. Without even the possibility of a truth, there is no meaning in life and therefore no reason to continue living our lives for no apparent purpose. The self-refuting truth claims that we discussed in class as well as the Correspondence Theory of Truth make the post-modernist beliefs even less realistic and totally unbelievable. God is THE truth and is what we must seek out in order to discover what He has planned to give our lives meaning.
Sydney Driesen, period 4

Anonymous said...

This blog is interesting about the knowledge of post modernism. The blog started out slow and confusing when talking about the history of the Catholic Church and the people questioning it, but then it made sense on how the equation of post modernism came to exsistance. The best part of this blog all 6 self - refuting notions that post modernists have.

Jake Wattenbarger p.4

Anonymous said...

This article is really good but also really confusing. I didn't know that all of the church's history lead to postmodernism. I really liked that equation that end the end equals to postmodernism. I think the best part of this blog however is the self refuting notions and how they all contradict to what postmodernists believe. This is a good base for the knowledge of post modernism.

Jake Wattenbarger. P.4